before i start, please don't buy your airline tickets yet!
i haven't nailed down all of the technical details but i am targeting saturday may 3rd, 2008. .
the main thing i need to sort out is the location.
The only problem is that the apartment complex has sense re-wrote the rules and contract so that no one can use the clubhouse for parties before 6:00 PM.
Then let's do it after 6pm! May 3rd is the date for the Scarborough Fair event, so many will be there during the day--we could head to your place for dinner/drinks in the evening!
1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
terminal ineptness
Now THAT's a phrase to remember! I love it!
i recently bumped into a jw i know that told me that her watch had been pinched at an assembly , she then went on to tell me that a lot of worldly people go to assemblys ,so she should have been more carfull !!!!!!!
this is someone that knows im "worldly" i was gobsmacked when i had recovered from my shock i informed her that i would not dream of stealing something despite being "worldly".
i dont even think she realised how offensive it sounded and she is not usually a judgemental person , so it must be all that self righteous association she has been mixing with lol
That's funny and sad. Ever notice at the assemblies, they have to have two or more folks staff the "Lost & Found" desk... that's to keep 'em honest. If only one was there, they might just "pinch" the good stuff that gets turned in.
OK, now I'm generalizing, I agree...
i am quickly fading, desperate to leave.
my children, however have been brought up jws and are used to the jw way of life and ethos.
i have told them how i feel.
Is the 20-year-old still at home? For him/her, I agree with the explaining that somebody else mentioned--your reasoned decision as to why you're leaving.
For the 16-year-old... maybe. Let me tell you how it's gone with my 3 girls, now ages 17, 15 (almost 16) and 13 (almost 14).
We were uber-spiritual... one of the 'cornerstones' of the congregation if you ask anybody. My girls were popular, but with the 'faithful', not with the 'in' crowd of kids. You said your kids are popular--if it's with the 'in' crowd, the 'popular' kids, you're probably not going to have any problem pulling them away from a WTS routine of life.
With my girls, I'm lucky that my wife (who is still a JW) and my kids stopped attending meetings regularly. They say the reason they stopped was so as not to unduly add to my stress, as they know that JW stuff really 'gets' to me. I think, based on things my wife has said, attitudes she's voiced, that she doesn't 'buy' everything JW's teach, or at least how the organization is ran. She's voiced the words 'the good-ole-boys-club' before.
Now, with the kids not attending meetings regularly, my wife has been very open about letting the kids do things we didn't let them do before... they hang out regularly with both witness friends and friends from school, sometimes at the same time (when it's at our house). They go to their school friends' homes, go meet them for lunch or movies or other activities. My oldest is participating on an OVERNIGHT away trip this weekend in the Academic Decathalon, traveling and staying with non-JW kids and chaperones, without my wife or I along, something we would never have permitted when we were 'in'.
And you know what? Our kids are HAPPY, they are having FUN, they LOVE their new life, and they DON'T MISS THE MEETINGS.
Just let your kids be kids... let them live a "normal" life, be an active and concerned parent, but not a domineering controlling JW one.
You won't have to "prove" your stand to them. They'll see how much better it is, all on their own.
Just my 2 cents worth.... I wish you the best!!!
The pioneer is going to get a talking to by the PO for wearing a skirt short enough to be above the knees!
an uncle of mine bought a house from an older lady and she left about 300 lps all classical music.
all in excellent condition.
i have searched the net and am trying to figure out what to do with them.
Convert them all to MP3 with a USB turntable (assuming they aren't 78rpm):
http://www.amazon.com/Ion-iTTUSB-Turntable-USB-Record/dp/B000BUEMOO
i guess it's about time i write my story.
i've put this off for a long time... primarily becuase, while i thought my story was bad, i've read so many worse and heart-rending stories here.
i think, though, there is some therapeutic value in 'letting it all out' with others who know what 'it' was like.
Thank you for your feedback, everyone... it means so much to know you understand!
if the mods feel this should be moved to 'relationships', which is clearly labeled 'sex', that's fine.
i think it more appropriately falls under 'family, teens', as i am looking for advice from parents with kids about how they plan to manage/guide their child's transformation from teen to adult.. do you still subscribe to the no-sex-before-marriage rule for your kids?
i, personally, don't.
OK, I don't feel bad now! NOBODY KNOWS! :-)
I guess we just let them figure it out?
hi everyone, i have been a longtime lurker to this website, but i have never posted.
so here is a little bit about myself:
i was raised a jw, got baptized at 13, became a regular pioneering right out of high school, i was used extensively at the hall and on assemblies, came from a nice jw background.
Welcome, letsgetout! Glad you GOT OUT! And you're about to enter another adventure with your marriage---congratulations. I hope your parents will see that you're happy and be able to be happy for you too and accept you for who you are. Most Witness parents don't know how to do that... but some do. I hope they surprise you!! - TJ
if the mods feel this should be moved to 'relationships', which is clearly labeled 'sex', that's fine.
i think it more appropriately falls under 'family, teens', as i am looking for advice from parents with kids about how they plan to manage/guide their child's transformation from teen to adult.. do you still subscribe to the no-sex-before-marriage rule for your kids?
i, personally, don't.
If the mods feel this should be moved to 'relationships', which is clearly labeled 'sex', that's fine. I think it more appropriately falls under 'family, teens', as I am looking for advice from PARENTS with KIDS about how they plan to manage/guide their child's transformation from teen to adult.
Do you still subscribe to the no-sex-before-marriage rule for your kids? I, personally, don't.
It raises the interesting question, though, for those of us that use to believe this or even teach our kids this... beyond talking to your kids about sex, protection, relationships, what role do you play/plan to play in your child's transformation? I've heard everything from "don't ask, don't tell", to "if you need protection, come ask me and I'll give you some", to "it's okay for you to do it in our house/your room if you tell us what's going on."
Does the advice change if the child is a boy or a girl?
If you used to teach your kids the JW way, and they are still at home, do you introduce a new, more "open" viewpoint to them, or leave things as-is?
I'm interested in hearing your responses, experiences, advice. I want my kids to have a balanced, realistic, and safe environment in which to discover themselves and this new part of their life...
